. >> i've got a remote that's like a nasa computer i don't know how to use, but this apple tv remote has two buttons and does everything. >> it's so inexpensive, i can afford to buy it for both of you. >> it's 100 bucks or something. >> exactly right. >> and it's amazing. you can connect to netflix. it's great. >> but before we leave this tell me what you think, what changes might be coming at cnn? in other words, what's the challenge for cnn? >> i don't know. i think cnn has a great brand and is a great place and has really dedicated journalists. and like cbs, there's not a lot of places that, you know, have journalists working out on the field, and cbs is one of them, and cnn is, you know, the place is expanding with euros and that's important us to and that's in our dna. >> i worked for jeff zucker for many years. he said in taking over cnn that he wants to have more passion. do you think you can meet that bill? >> i think he has. >> i certainly hope so. i certainly hope so. look, there's a lot of passionate people there, and i think we've always done well when things are happenin